| 在線問答: |
| [問：97669] |
1.TigerSHARC 中浮點(diǎn)數(shù)運(yùn)算速度大于時(shí)鐘頻率,是否是SIMD 的原因? |
| [答：Eric] |
在一個(gè)運(yùn)算塊中同一個(gè)周期可以執(zhí)行兩條指令，同時(shí)有兩個(gè)運(yùn)算塊 |
[2003-7-24 10:39:20] |
| [問：asaa] |
我在做雷達(dá)信號(hào)處理系統(tǒng)（信號(hào)增強(qiáng)、處理、成像），該需要幾個(gè)處理器，在設(shè)計(jì)時(shí)，按你們的經(jīng)驗(yàn)，需多長時(shí)間，與TI的C6X系列相比較如何？ |
| [答：Phil] |
TigerSHARC can handle twice the number of 16-bit MAC operations as C64x and can TigerSHARC can support IEEE floating point directly while TI C64x cannot.
TigerSHARC supports glueless multiprocessor connectivity whereas TI cannot. |
[2003-7-24 10:45:18] |
| [問：bjwwj] |
1.我用18片ADSP21062做了一個(gè)系統(tǒng)，現(xiàn)在想升級(jí)到TS101是否方便、可行；
2.我有ADI的ADSP21062開發(fā)工具（VisualDSP2.0，ICE）。請(qǐng)問：怎樣才能升級(jí)到TS101的系統(tǒng)仿真、開發(fā)。 |
| [答：Ksri] |
1. It is technically feasible to upgrade your system with TigerSHARC. However you should note that TigerSHARC and 21062 are NOT assembly language compatible. Also, there are differences in the hardware interfaces between 21062 and TigerSHARC viz the link ports and external memory interfaces. One has to take care to redesign the same. However the approach of design is the same in both the processors.
2. You can use the ICE that you used in 21062 for TigerSHARC as well. For VDSP 2.0, you need to buy one for TigerSHARC separately. However the user interface and other features of VDSP in TigerSHARC are very similar to the VDSP of 21062.
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[2003-7-24 10:45:45] |
| [問：asaa] |
因?yàn)殚_始時(shí)選擇了TI的產(chǎn)品，后來感覺他們的技術(shù)支持不能令人滿意，你們?cè)谥袊南嚓P(guān)產(chǎn)品的技術(shù)支持力量如何 |
| [答：Steve] |
China is has a team of dedicated DSP FAEs. In addition, there is a China Application Support
which supports customers thru email and phone. |
[2003-7-24 10:46:16] |
| [問：wdhe] |
是否適合用于汽車自主導(dǎo)航系統(tǒng)的主機(jī)？
或者AD公司有其他芯片可以用于這個(gè)方面？是否有應(yīng)用案例？
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| [答：Phil] |
Yes, TigerSHARC can be used in this application. Other ADI DSPs can also be used as well such as Blackfin. |
[2003-7-24 10:46:48] |
[問：brent
_dong] |
TigerSHARC DSP與ＴＩ的６４系列ＤＳＰ相比， 有什么優(yōu)勢(shì)和劣勢(shì)？
開發(fā)工具和服務(wù)支持如何？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
TigerSHARC has all the advantages over the TI C64x. C64x is only at 600MHz and 720Mhz. It has only 4 MACs. TigerSHARC is also at 600 Mhz but has 8 MACs. Hence, C64x can do atmost 720 x 4 MMACs while TigerSHARC can do 600 x 8 MMACs. This means that TigerSHARC is much more powerful than C64x.
Also TS201 has 24Mbit of memory while the maximum memory of TI DSP is only 8 Mbit.
ADI has technical support in China and can be contacted at the following :
Toll-free number: 800-810-1742
Toll-free fax: 800-810-1747
China.dsp@analog.com
ADI has VDSP tools and emulators that work well with all TigerSHARC processors. We also supply EZ-kits that coule be used for evaluation. |
[2003-7-24 10:49:10] |
[問：donot
know] |
如何來判斷dsp的快與慢僅僅是時(shí)鐘頻率嗎? |
| [答：Phil] |
Clock rate is only one factor. Efficiency of the architecture contributes a great deal to this as well as bandwidth of data fetch, level of parallelism.
Comparing actual benchmarks for same algorithm will tell you more than just looking at clock rate. |
[2003-7-24 10:50:11] |
[問：
shb9691] |
TigerSHARC與TI的C6000系列DSP相比有什么優(yōu)勢(shì)？
其開發(fā)的技術(shù)支持和應(yīng)用普及面如何，因?yàn)檫@涉及到自主開發(fā)時(shí)的技術(shù)交流問題。 |
| [答：Ksri] |
TigerSHARC has a lot of advantages over the C6000 DSP. TigerSHARC at 600 MHz can do 1200 32-bit MMACs, while the Maximum 32-bit MMACs of C6000 is around 450 MMAcs.
Also, TigerSHARC has 24 Mbit of memory while the C6000 has max. memory of 8 Mbit.
We also offer technical support at
Toll-free number: 800-810-1742
Toll-free fax: 800-810-1747
China.dsp@analog.com
Applications of TigerSHARC include 3G base station, medical imaging and radar and sonar applications etc. |
[2003-7-24 10:51:24] |
| [問：lwg910] |
The latest TigerSHARC 201S/202/203 is the most powerful float point DSP. Are they optimized for video and computer vision operations? And when can we get this exciting product? |
| [答：Steve] |
The TS20x processors are equally adept at 32-bit floating point and 16-bit, and 8-bit fixed point applications. The 16-bit fixed point format as well as the 8-bit fixed can be used for video and vision applications. ADI also offers the Blackfin family for cost and power sensitive video applications. TS201/TS202/TS203 is sampling now. |
[2003-7-24 10:51:41] |
[問：
qingshui] |
VDSP3.0中對(duì)寫syscon寄存器設(shè)了保護(hù)，寫syscon寄存器在編譯時(shí)會(huì)報(bào)錯(cuò)。
請(qǐng)問如何對(duì)syscon寫才是合法的？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
You can write to SYSCON only once on powerup and in supervisor mode.
If you are not in supervisor mode, it will not work.
If you still has problems, please contact at dsp.support@analog.com |
[2003-7-24 10:52:33] |
[問：
linr2003] |
和SHARC相比，TigerSHARC有哪些明顯的優(yōu)點(diǎn)？ |
| [答：Phil] |
TigerSHARC has more on-chip memory, higher degree of parallelism, higher bandwidth, higher clock rate and greater flexibility in host and multiprocessing systems. |
[2003-7-24 10:52:55] |
| [問：qin] |
什么是EDRAM?它和DRAM有何不同?存儲(chǔ)器單元是什么樣結(jié)構(gòu)? |
| [答：Phil] |
EDRAM is embedded DRAM. Structure is one transistor per cell. |
[2003-7-24 10:53:38] |
| [問：zgw] |
TigerSHARC處理器的結(jié)構(gòu)和特點(diǎn)，能否提供靈活的人機(jī)界面設(shè)計(jì)（鍵盤接口、640×480以上圖形顯示），存儲(chǔ)器的管理能力如何？ |
| [答：Eric] |
TS有強(qiáng)大的浮點(diǎn)/定點(diǎn)處理能力，支持SIMD，有大量的片上內(nèi)存和IO帶寬。可以支持人機(jī)界面。TS101可以在一個(gè)時(shí)鐘周期內(nèi)訪問128bit×3的數(shù)據(jù)/指令。TS201支持Cache和prefetch機(jī)制，提高EDRAM的訪問效率 |
[2003-7-24 10:53:40] |
| [問：ljp] |
EZ-DSP庫函數(shù)的價(jià)格多少?是否要許可證費(fèi)用? |
| [答：Phil] |
Please contact the EZ-DSP vendor directly for full details of pricing and availability. ADI does not sell this product directly. EZ-DSP is a third party vendor. |
[2003-7-24 10:54:43] |
[問：feng
haihong] |
請(qǐng)比較G4、Ti的C6000和TigerSHARC。
開發(fā)TigerSHARC板極產(chǎn)品，應(yīng)注意什么？
ADI為什么沒有公開 EZ-KIT Lite 的evaluation board 軟硬件文檔？
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| [答：Gerry] |
TigerSHARC的16位乘法能力是TIC64的兩倍，內(nèi)存是C64的3倍。
ADI提供足夠的板極支持，包括原理圖，EE Notes,文檔，手冊(cè)等等。
ADI有公開的EZ－KIT的Evaluation board文檔，在EZ－KIT的手冊(cè)中。 |
[2003-7-24 10:54:51] |
| [問：zgw] |
我現(xiàn)在正在研究設(shè)計(jì)一分布式采集系統(tǒng)，其中想設(shè)計(jì)一管理主機(jī)：具有顯示（640×480圖形顯示）、大容量存儲(chǔ)(128M位以上）、通訊及數(shù)據(jù)處理功能，
請(qǐng)問選用那種微處理器比較合適？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
You have a few options.
1. You can go for TS201 processor that has 24Mbit of memory and 600Mhz processor speed to do your display processing. However you might still want to add external SDRAM using the onchip SDRAM controller of TigerSHARC processor.
2. If price is a major concern for this application, you can go for Blackfin processor that is good for video display processing, but you need to add a lot of external memory.
If you can share more information about your application and system, we can certainly help you. Our email is dsp.support@analog.com |
[2003-7-24 10:54:53] |
| [問：mtdmti] |
將來TigerSHARC處理器中能夠和fpga結(jié)合起來嗎？在TigerSHARC處理器中也能進(jìn)行數(shù)據(jù)打包，進(jìn)行數(shù)據(jù)傳輸�。�！ |
| [答：Eric] |
TS可以和Altera/Xilinx FPGA方便的接口，包括總線和Linkport。Linkport輸出的數(shù)據(jù)可以通過FPGA進(jìn)行格式轉(zhuǎn)換和打包 |
[2003-7-24 10:55:49] |
| [問：97669] |
2.在DSP比較時(shí),BBENCHMARK的具體含義,為什么說 The smaller the benchmark number, the quick the algotithm execution?在BENCHMARK 中提到了 ON-CHIP SRAM SIZE,DAM CHANNELS,DATA REGISTER,CIRCULAR BUFFERS,難道這些指標(biāo)也要小嗎? |
| [答：Steve] |
We agree, "ON-CHIP SRAM SIZE,DMA CHANNELS,DATA REGISTER,CIRCULAR BUFFERS," are not benchmarks but processor attributes or features. A smaller benchmark is better only if the benchmark represents TIME to execute. |
[2003-7-24 10:56:20] |
| [問：samire] |
TigerSHARC克以用于智能天線陣列控制嗎?有無參考設(shè)計(jì)資料? |
| [答：Gerry] |
TigerSHARC可以用于智能天線陣列處理。ADI及其第三方有相應(yīng)的參考設(shè)計(jì)和文檔。 |
[2003-7-24 10:56:26] |
[問：cguo
dong] |
在視頻應(yīng)用中,Blackfin 與TigerSHARC哪個(gè)更適合?
有沒有adi第三方已經(jīng)在TigerSHARC或blackfin的平臺(tái)上實(shí)現(xiàn)MPEG-4?
如果有,是那家?做到了什么樣的程度? |
| [答：
LiChuan] |
for comsumer application, Blackfin is suitable, but for the high end, such as H.264 D1 encoder or HDTV encoder, TigerSHARC is more proper.
we have several 3rd party who have successful get the MPEG4 on Blackfin platform. the effect is very good. you can contact with us for the info about the 3rd party. 800-810-1742 |
[2003-7-24 10:56:57] |
| [問：68395] |
為何TigerSHARC處理器的功耗比Blackfin要大的多？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
TigerSHARC power consumption will be more than Blackfin because it has more processing power. TigerSHARC can do 4800 MMAcs while Blackfin can do 1200 MMACs. TigerSHARC has more memory 24-Mbit while Blackfin has around 1 Mbit of memory. TigerSHARC has more pins and is a bigger package compared to Blackfin. hence TigerSHARC has more power consumption.
Please note that TS is designed for infrastructure applications that involve continous power source and hence power is not a concern. Blackfin is designed for power sensitive hand held applications. |
[2003-7-24 10:57:02] |
| [問：mtdmti] |
TigerSHARC處理器的上電順序解決了嗎？上電順序還有特殊要求嗎？ |
| [答：Steve] |
See the datasheets for specific recommendations on the ADSP-TS101 or ADSP-TS20x power sequencing requirements. |
[2003-7-24 10:57:23] |
| [問：99427] |
MFLOPS/W的性能比較有什么實(shí)際意義？和P4比較有什么意義？ |
| [答：Phil] |
MFLOPS/W is a measure of performance per power drawn. Often a board has a power budget and this will define how many MFLOPS you can design to this budget. Pentium draws far more power than TigerSHARC (roughly 30 times as much) |
[2003-7-24 10:57:42] |
| [問：melonpy] |
ADI公司的ADSP系列能不能處理24位的定點(diǎn)運(yùn)算？ |
| [答：Gerry] |
ADSP系列主要分為16位和32位兩個(gè)系列。
你可以用32位的ADSP處理24位的定點(diǎn)運(yùn)算，比如TigerSHARC。 |
[2003-7-24 10:59:34] |
[問：jia
xueqin] |
69個(gè)tap的數(shù)字濾波器，要求采樣頻率為40mhz,數(shù)據(jù)寬度為24bit,要是選用tigerSHARC DSP應(yīng)具體選用哪種型號(hào)呢？ |
| [答：Phil] |
Any of the TigerSHARCs will be suitable for this application. You can use 16-bit MACs on TigerSHARC if your coefficients are 16-bits or you can use 32-bit MACs if your coefficients are actually 24-bits. All TigerSHARCs will support this. |
[2003-7-24 11:00:05] |
[問：wei
shuigen] |
1、該器件的使用特點(diǎn)；
2、該器件編程特點(diǎn)；
3、該期間在圖象邊緣檢測中的應(yīng)用 |
| [答：Phil] |
I don"t understand what is being asked in questions 1 and 2 - sorry.
Question 3 can be addressed by using 2D filtering and this is supported on TigerSHARC. |
[2003-7-24 11:01:22] |
| [問：samire] |
TigerSHARC的性能特點(diǎn)除了片內(nèi)存儲(chǔ)器容量大外,還有什么突出的優(yōu)點(diǎn)? |
| [答：Eric] |
強(qiáng)大的浮點(diǎn)/定點(diǎn)處理能力和IO帶寬，支持3G應(yīng)用的特殊指令集 |
[2003-7-24 11:01:45] |
| [問：wwh0810] |
AD與TI在數(shù)字信號(hào)處理方面的優(yōu)劣（TMS3206000級(jí)別），謝謝。 |
| [答：Gerry] |
TigerSHARC與TIC6000相比：TigerSHARC的互連能力遠(yuǎn)遠(yuǎn)大于C6000，TigerSHARC的內(nèi)存也是C6000的三倍，并行運(yùn)算能力兩者相當(dāng)。 |
[2003-7-24 11:02:11] |
| [問：86222] |
TigerSHARC 處理器是為滿足業(yè)界要求最嚴(yán)格的信號(hào)處理和圖像處理應(yīng)用推薦的唯一處理器。請(qǐng)問在3G的語音和圖像編解碼方面，貴公司有何針對(duì)TigerSHARC的解決方案/庫函數(shù)/合作伙伴。
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| [答：Phil] |
Delphi is an ADI third party that supports 3G applications/libraries. ADI also provides 3G libraries. |
[2003-7-24 11:02:32] |
[問：weng
st0428] |
請(qǐng)問與blackfin有什么區(qū)別嗎 |
| [答：Ksri] |
Blackfin is a processor that is used for handheld applications. This is designed for low battery application.
TigerSHARC is used for infrastructure applications where power is not a constraint.
Given the above, Blackfin has around 1200 MMACs, while the TigerSHARC has around 4800 MMACs in 16-bit mode.
TigerSHARC can also process 32-bit data and 8-bit data that makes it very versatile. It can process around 1200 32-bit MMACs. TigerSHARC also has more memory than Blackfin and is used for multiprocessing applications. |
[2003-7-24 11:02:32] |
[問：science
Mode] |
TigerSHARC的標(biāo)準(zhǔn)的開發(fā)設(shè)備多少錢？學(xué)習(xí)用的開發(fā)設(shè)備？ |
| [答：Tonny] |
$1200 for VisualDSP++ software, EZ-ICE and TigerSHARC EZ-KIT. |
[2003-7-24 11:02:37] |
[問：donot
know] |
如何來比較dsp處理器的快慢,僅僅是時(shí)鐘頻率嗎? |
| [答：Gerry] |
當(dāng)然不是僅僅看時(shí)鐘頻率。指令的并行度是另一個(gè)指標(biāo)。指令與指令之間是否存在等待周期，也會(huì)影響DSP處理速度。 |
[2003-7-24 11:03:43] |
[問：zhang
zhenghong] |
請(qǐng)問：為什么TS101在RESET時(shí)需要兩個(gè)負(fù)電平，用一個(gè)負(fù)電平行不行？core和I/O的加電有沒有嚴(yán)格的順序要求？ |
| [答：Eric] |
TS101要求復(fù)位信號(hào)的特殊波形，否則不能保證100％正確復(fù)位。Core要求比IO先上電，這是大多數(shù)雙電源芯片的要求 |
[2003-7-24 11:04:08] |
| [問：chenrx] |
TigerSHARC和傳統(tǒng)的處理器的不同點(diǎn)在什么地方？內(nèi)部處理速度能達(dá)到多少M(fèi)HZ？內(nèi)部結(jié)構(gòu)是否為流水線結(jié)構(gòu)，如果是的話？為幾級(jí)流水線結(jié)構(gòu)呢？
謝謝��！ |
| [答：Steve] |
The TigerSHARC is a VLIW architecture with RISC and DSP features to support real-time applications. VLIW means that up to 4 instructions can be executed in parallel that can control operation of two compute blocks (which include MAC/ALU/SHIfter/CLU), two IAU (integer ALUs) and the sequencer. The pipeline structure detail can be seen in the Programmers Reference from http://www.analog.com/Analog_Root/static/library/
dspManuals/tigersharc/ts201pgr.html
It basically TS20x has a 4 Fetch, 2 compute, plus 4 others. |
[2003-7-24 11:04:54] |
| [問：zgw] |
TigerSHARC處理器的結(jié)構(gòu)和特點(diǎn)，能否提供靈活的人機(jī)界面設(shè)計(jì)（鍵盤接口、640×480以上圖形顯示），存儲(chǔ)器的管理能力如何？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
TigerSHARC is a DSP infact a very powerful DSP. It has all the features a DSP ought to have. It does not have a MMI or display interface. However one can always interface some of the standard chips to interface to TigerSHARC and implement display and MMI.
TigerSHARC does not have memory management capability. You can just connect external memory and directly access the entire memory space |
[2003-7-24 11:05:01] |
| [問：fzz118] |
用TigerSharc能代替像PowerPc這樣的嵌入式微處理器而應(yīng)用在嵌入式領(lǐng)域嗎？ |
| [答：Gerry] |
可以，TigerSHARC上有相應(yīng)的操作系統(tǒng)，通過TigerSHARC的接口可以控制外圍設(shè)備。 |
[2003-7-24 11:05:05] |
| [問：luna930] |
TigerSHARC系列芯片是否具有電源管理模塊，能否作為嵌入式平臺(tái)的核心處理器？ |
| [答：Eric] |
TS沒有內(nèi)嵌的電源處理模塊，可以作為嵌入式平臺(tái)的核心處理器 |
[2003-7-24 11:05:08] |
| [問：qin] |
TigerSHARC中有雙處理器,它們是并行工作的還是可以同時(shí)完成不同的任務(wù)? |
| [答：Gerry] |
兩個(gè)運(yùn)算塊并行工作，可以完成相同的任務(wù)，也可以完成不同的任務(wù)。 |
[2003-7-24 11:06:08] |
| [問：mtdmti] |
TigerSHARC系列dsp有沒有免費(fèi)的軟件和仿真器，我們已經(jīng)買了adsp2106x的軟件和仿真器，不可能馬上再買? |
| [答：Phil] |
Software Developments tools (VisualDSP++) is available for a free time limited trial for TigerSHARC and all of the ADI DSPs. ICE is a separate hardware tool and must be purchased. |
[2003-7-24 11:06:12] |
| [問：zqm-2000] |
請(qǐng)問 你們現(xiàn)在主要是講 dsp 系列
它主要是適用于圖像處理，我可以提一些16位定點(diǎn)dsp的問題嗎？哪里有有關(guān)ADMC401的中文資料嗎？ |
[答：
LiChuan] |
of course you can!
you can contact with our support center for the ADMC401 material.
800-810-1742 |
[2003-7-24 11:07:23] |
| [問：samire] |
TigerSHARC稱作處理器,它和數(shù)字信號(hào)處理器(DSP)有何不同?和CPU呢? |
| [答：Phil] |
A DSP is a special kind of processor that performs arithmetic operations very fast and efficiently and responds to interrupts very quickly. The TigerSHARC is a DSP and it is also considered an embedded processor. |
[2003-7-24 11:07:27] |
| [問：97669] |
在DSP比較時(shí),BBENCHMARK的具體含義,為什么說 The smaller the benchmark number, the quick the algotithm execution?在BENCHMARK 中提到了 ON-CHIP SRAM SIZE,DAM CHANNELS,DATA REGISTER,CIRCULAR BUFFERS,難道這些指標(biāo)也要小嗎?
|
| [答：Ksri] |
When comparing the DSPs, a common benchmark that is used is MIPS. So, the definition of benchmark comes up now :
Benchmark is a figure that gives details of the processor performance.
So, when talking about MIPS, the figure should always be low because the lower the MIPS of an algorithm on the processor, the better it is. hence the lower the better.
Similarly, the onchip SRAM size , DMA channels registers are also important, but for example if registers are more, it is better because the registers are very important for performance.
Also, more memory is better. Hence, we need to understand the feature and decide whether smaller is better or larger is better |
[2003-7-24 11:07:52] |
| [問：qin] |
TigerSHARC可以用匯編語言和C語言編程,是指的同一程序還是可以同時(shí)執(zhí)行? |
| [答：Gerry] |
是指同一個(gè)程序，部分可以用C，部分可以匯編，二者可以互相調(diào)用。 |
[2003-7-24 11:07:56] |
| [問：allheart] |
其支持幾種編碼格式。 |
| [答：Phil] |
TigerSHARC can be programmed using assembly language, C and C++. |
[2003-7-24 11:08:02] |
| [問：szg_szg] |
請(qǐng)談?wù)凾igerSHARC 處理器的體系結(jié)構(gòu) ，它能簡單的級(jí)連應(yīng)用么？TigerSHARC 處理器的獨(dú)特特點(diǎn)？謝謝！ |
| [答：Eric] |
TS支持最多8片通過總線相連，同時(shí)可以通過Linkport擴(kuò)展成陣列方式，具體的數(shù)量沒有限制。特點(diǎn)：定點(diǎn)/浮點(diǎn)結(jié)合的DSP，支持多處理器結(jié)構(gòu)，SIMD，3G特殊指令，大量片上內(nèi)存 |
[2003-7-24 11:08:20] |
[問：de
feng_y] |
帶A/D、D/A嗎 |
| [答：Eric] |
No |
[2003-7-24 11:08:26] |
[問：
timorthy] |
我想進(jìn)行圖象處理的運(yùn)算，需要大量的存儲(chǔ)空間，這款芯片最大支持的存儲(chǔ)量是多少？ |
| [答：Phil] |
The TS201 has 24 Mbits of on-chip memory. External memory (SDRAM and SRAM) is also supported and can be used with TigerSHARC. TigerSHARC has an on-chip SDRAM controller as well. |
[2003-7-24 11:09:10] |
[問：zhang
zhenghong] |
請(qǐng)問：能否提供一些關(guān)于TS101的多片緊耦合設(shè)計(jì)的原理圖及設(shè)計(jì)時(shí)的注意事項(xiàng)。 |
| [答：Eric] |
可以提供EZkit板的原理圖，該板上有兩片TS通過總線和Linkport相連 |
[2003-7-24 11:09:33] |
| [問：samire] |
TigerSHARC內(nèi)部總線的工作速率能達(dá)到多高?帶寬呢? |
| [答：Gerry] |
TS20x的內(nèi)部總線是500MHz，600MHz；四條128比特內(nèi)部總線，帶寬為500×4×128比特/秒或600×4×128比特/秒。 |
[2003-7-24 11:09:58] |
| [問：samire] |
當(dāng)用TigerSHARC用作系統(tǒng)設(shè)計(jì)時(shí),如何產(chǎn)生PWM模式波形? |
| [答：Ksri] |
In TigerSHARC, the timers are very simple. You cannot generate PWM output. But, one can always use the flag pins and generate the PWM output under software control.
The only catch in this case that the frequency of such a PWM will be very low since it will be under software control.
Essentially it is good to use an external PWM chipset. |
[2003-7-24 11:10:21] |
| [問：qin] |
TigerSHARC能否用在3G手機(jī)內(nèi)?能處理多媒體圖像嗎? |
| [答：Phil] |
No. TigerSHARC is not well suited to handheld devices. TigerSHARC can process multimedia images. |
[2003-7-24 11:10:46] |
| [問：ljp] |
演示中的專門指令是什么意思?有何用途?.演示中的專門指令是什么意思?有何用途? |
| [答：Gerry] |
專用指令是指通信加速指令，主要用于3G無線通信。 |
[2003-7-24 11:10:58] |
| [問：ken23] |
VisualDSP++支持C++編程嗎？ |
| [答：Gerry] |
支持。 |
[2003-7-24 11:11:06] |
| [問：bigmt] |
請(qǐng)問在使用多處理器系統(tǒng)時(shí)，應(yīng)該考慮的最關(guān)鍵因素是什么？ |
| [答：Steve] |
The key factors when considering a multi-processing system are:
Interprocessor communication bandwidth, (TigerSHARC supports high bandwidth thru two communication paths - the link ports and the parallel bus, both do not require any external logic)
Minimal Glue logic required between processors, (TigerSHARC requires none!)
Software complexity for controlling multi-processor communication. TigerSHARC family supports a unified multiprocessor memory space so processors can directly address each others internal memory and registers and can access a shared external memory. |
[2003-7-24 11:11:12] |
| [問：ljp] |
.演示中的專門指令是什么意思?有何用途? |
| [答：Gerry] |
3G通信加速指令。 |
[2003-7-24 11:11:40] |
| [問：yjbs] |
TigerSHARC處理器的開發(fā)環(huán)境支持C++嗎？我用來做視頻的編解碼夠用嗎？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
TigerSHARC is supported by VDSP++ 3.0 toolset. VDSP supports a subset of embedded C++ standard that involves class derivations and operator overloading etc.
Regarding the video encoder and decoder on TS, ADI has not implemented on TS. However, given the high MIPS of TigerSHARC, one can certainly impelement video encoder and decoder. However one has to take care of the size of the image because the MIPS will limit the size of the image. |
[2003-7-24 11:12:45] |
| [問：75047] |
在 TS上使用RTOS:OSE, 其具體是怎樣一個(gè)操作系統(tǒng)��？ |
| [答：Phil] |
OSE can be used on TigerSHARC. Please contact the OSE vendor directly for full details of this RTOS and its application to TigerSHARC. The RTOS (Real Time Operating System) vendor is ENEA. |
[2003-7-24 11:13:52] |
| [問：doit] |
TigerSHARC處理器最大的特點(diǎn)是什么？ |
| [答：Eric] |
主要包括：SIMD并行處理能力，多處理器系統(tǒng)支持能力，3G特殊指令集，大量片上內(nèi)存，極高的IO帶寬 |
[2003-7-24 11:14:21] |
[問：
cguodong] |
作為技術(shù)人員,更關(guān)心產(chǎn)品開發(fā)的工作量.
好的開發(fā)環(huán)境,對(duì)高級(jí)語言的支持,代碼的優(yōu)化,請(qǐng)專家談?wù)勥@方面的問題. |
| [答：Ksri] |
ADI supports the customer to reduce the cost and time. In that context, we have very good development tools in VDSP++ 3.0 tools. The tools come with optimizing C/C++ compiler, assembler, linker, VDK operating system, debugger, emulator etc. They will help certainly in reducing your development and debugging time.
On the hardware design perspective, we have a number of application notes that describe interfaceing the TS processor with a number of external devices.
For 3G applications, we have solutions and reference sw and hw implementations with ADI and 3rd parties |
[2003-7-24 11:15:00] |
| [問：blackffan] |
在并行處理時(shí)具備什么優(yōu)勢(shì)？ |
| [答：Gerry] |
很高的DSP間通信能力。包括LinkPort和Cluster bus。每個(gè)LinkPort提供1Gbyte的吞吐能力，Cluster bus也是1G的總線。所以DSP間通信的速度非常塊。 |
[2003-7-24 11:15:45] |
| [問：blackffan] |
Tiger的總線驅(qū)動(dòng)能力如何？ |
| [答：Eric] |
TS總線支持8片DSP互連，另外可以通過外部配置管腳的上下拉狀態(tài)調(diào)整總線的驅(qū)動(dòng)電流和阻抗 |
[2003-7-24 11:15:55] |
| [問：ljp] |
ADI公司能否提供參考設(shè)計(jì)和電路圖? |
| [答：Tonny] |
Yes, you can find many reference design in our web site. or contact with ADI china support center.
800-810-1742
china.dsp@analog.com |
[2003-7-24 11:15:58] |
[問：cheng
m1982] |
模擬器件的市場現(xiàn)在怎樣？你覺得這個(gè)行業(yè)的前景如何？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
ADI has very good products in the DSP and Analog signal chains. In the DSP we have SHARC, TigerSHARC and Blackfin products that offer a good cost / performance figures.
Hence the future for ADI in this market is good. |
[2003-7-24 11:16:11] |
| [問：ljp] |
演示中的專門指令是什么意思?有何用途? |
| [答：Steve] |
The "special instructions" are the CLU or Communications Logic Unit based instructions like:
ACS - supports Viterbi and Turbo decode
XCORR - fast cross correlation for path search algorithms.
DESPREAD - supports implementing spreading and despreading.
PERMUTE - supports byte reordering. |
[2003-7-24 11:17:03] |
[問：science
Mode] |
該芯片是否用樣品贈(zèng)送？另外是否由相關(guān)的開發(fā)資料提供？
對(duì)于語音識(shí)別方面大概能做到從20個(gè)字的語音樣本中查尋一個(gè)需要多長時(shí)間？ |
| [答：Phil] |
Please contact your local Sales office for details of TigerSHARC samples. ADI also offers evaluation boards and code examples to help customers.
ADI does not have an implementation of this algorithm for TigerSHARC. You can examine this algorighm for SHARC. |
[2003-7-24 11:17:33] |
[問：zhang
zhenghong] |
請(qǐng)問：TS101的地址線、數(shù)據(jù)線、LINK口輸出的阻抗是多少，在設(shè)計(jì)時(shí)怎么考慮？ |
| [答：Eric] |
阻抗可以通過外部管腳上下拉進(jìn)行調(diào)整，在PCB設(shè)計(jì)時(shí)需要通過仿真確定實(shí)際配置 |
[2003-7-24 11:17:45] |
| [問：samire] |
如何使用TigerSHARC的Scratchpad SRAM? |
| [答：Gerry] |
TS101有SRAM，TS201是SDRAM。內(nèi)部內(nèi)存的使用可以用相應(yīng)的指令，請(qǐng)參考軟件手冊(cè)。 |
[2003-7-24 11:17:48] |
[問：
defeng_y] |
指令周期是多少 |
| [答：Eric] |
TS101：
250MHz－4ns
300MHz－3.3ns
TS201：
500MHz－2ns
600MHz－1.67ns |
[2003-7-24 11:18:53] |
| [問：zsc] |
為什么稱此款處理器為“老虎”？
請(qǐng)問該處理器在工業(yè)控制實(shí)際使用中與TI的同類產(chǎn)品相比有哪些優(yōu)勢(shì)？ |
| [答：Phil] |
The name follows the pattern for other ADI DSP products - it sounds nice, doesn"t it?
TigerSHARC is extremely powerful, has high data bandwidth, flexible fixed point and floating point support as well as glueless multiprocessing support. |
[2003-7-24 11:19:31] |
[問：jia
xueqin] |
要想多了解一些TigerSHARC的資料，怎樣獲��？ |
| [答：Tonny] |
Please visit our website or contact ADI China Support Center
800-810-1742
china.dsp@analog.com |
[2003-7-24 11:19:42] |
| [問：liuyiyun1726] |
tigersharc 與TI 的6000相比，初了速度提高以后，有沒有它自己獨(dú)特的功能 |
| [答：Gerry] |
具有專用的3G通信加速指令，支持Chip速率和Symbol速率的處理；TigerSHARC的DSP互連能力很強(qiáng)，可以輕松的構(gòu)造DSP陣列。 |
[2003-7-24 11:19:43] |
| [問：qin] |
TigerSHARC能否直接外接閃存?容量有多大? |
| [答：Eric] |
可以支持Flash連接，具體容量沒有限制視應(yīng)用而定 |
[2003-7-24 11:19:51] |
| [問：zmeng] |
我們也想知道你們產(chǎn)品劣于對(duì)手的方面，請(qǐng)敘述一下。 |
| [答：Phil] |
There are none! Try it. You will like it! |
[2003-7-24 11:20:06] |
| [問：ljp] |
TigerSHARC可以進(jìn)行多個(gè)級(jí)聯(lián)使用嗎? |
| [答：Eric] |
可以通過Linkport和總線實(shí)現(xiàn)多片TS互連 |
[2003-7-24 11:20:26] |
[問：jia
xueqin] |
TigerSHARC的最快運(yùn)算速度是多大？ |
| [答：Gerry] |
12G操作/秒 |
[2003-7-24 11:20:30] |
[問：willam
_gann1] |
請(qǐng)介紹以下tiger sharc 的體系結(jié)構(gòu)和工藝. |
| [答：Phil] |
The presentation addresses this introduction. |
[2003-7-24 11:20:33] |
[問：
joandong] |
tigersharc和blackfin的主要區(qū)別及其應(yīng)用的差別。 |
| [答：Ksri] |
TigerSHARC is a processor that is designed for multiprocessing applications. Hence it has 4800 16-bit MMACs at 600Mhz.
Blackfin on the other hand is designed for power sensitive cost sensitive applications and hence offers 1200 MMAcs at 600MHz.
TigerSHARC is also a processor that can process 32-bit data and is also designed for multiprocessing applications.
Applications for TS include 3G base stations, sonar, radar, medical imaging, while Blackfin is used for cell phones, video, MPEG, Audio, modem applications |
[2003-7-24 11:20:52] |
| [問：ljp] |
請(qǐng)介紹TS201開發(fā)工具的價(jià)格.單個(gè)評(píng)估板呢? |
| [答：Steve] |
ADSP-TS201, $299 in 10K units
ADSP-TS201 EZ-Kit is not available yet. However,
you may want to consider the TigerSHARC toolkit
which consists of a EZ-kit, VDSP development suit and a high-performance ICE. The expected
price is US$1200. |
[2003-7-24 11:21:00] |
| [問：qin] |
多個(gè)TS201克以并行運(yùn)作嗎? |
| [答：Eric] |
最多支持8片TS201通過總線互連，Linkport連接的數(shù)量沒有限制 |
[2003-7-24 11:21:10] |
| [問：danhill] |
貴公司合作伙伴提供的應(yīng)用有那些？
聯(lián)系方式？ |
[答：
LiChuan] |
You can find detail information of 3rd partner in our website. or contact with ADI china support center. 800-810-1742 or mail to china.dsp@analog.com |
[2003-7-24 11:21:14] |
| [問：ken23] |
感覺上，TI在走高度并行策略，而AD在走高時(shí)鐘頻率策略，請(qǐng)問AD有沒有想過更多的提高自己芯片的單周期執(zhí)行指令數(shù)？ |
| [答：Phil] |
ADI is the multiprocessing leader. SHARC and TigerSHARC support glueless multiprocessing while TI DSPs do not! |
[2003-7-24 11:21:41] |
| [問：zhouq0725] |
請(qǐng)舉一個(gè)TigerSHARC在機(jī)器視覺方面的例子？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
TigerSHARC can be used for doing video encoding and decoding especially in multimedia streaming etc. Similarly, TigerSHARC is also used for radar and sonar imaging.
Apart from this, TigerSHARC is a great DSP with lots of compute power and hence it can be used for video image processing applications |
[2003-7-24 11:22:34] |
[問：zhang
zhenghong] |
能不能提供一些TS101編程指令使用注意事項(xiàng)的詳細(xì)資料。 |
| [答：Gerry] |
可以，你可以China.dsp@analog.com，打800-810-1742或?qū)で驛DI當(dāng)?shù)剞k事處尋求相應(yīng)資料。 |
[2003-7-24 11:22:50] |
| [問：wdhe] |
怎樣才能得到Blackfin的詳細(xì)技術(shù)資料？樣片？還有售前技術(shù)支持？ |
| [答：Tonny] |
Please visit our website for document.
Please apply sample online.
Please contact China DSP Support Center for techinical support.
800-810-1742
china.dsp@analog.com |
[2003-7-24 11:23:11] |
[問：
xiaoli169] |
我們?nèi)绻肨igerSharc在便攜設(shè)備上，其電源管理有什么特點(diǎn)？ |
| [答：Steve] |
The ADSP-TS101 and ADSP-20x processors are not designed for portable devices. We suggest the BlackFin family for low power applications. |
[2003-7-24 11:23:17] |
| [問：samire] |
請(qǐng)?jiān)敿?xì)介紹TigerSHARC的外部總線總線,它有幾個(gè)DMA控制器? |
| [答：Eric] |
總線支持最多8片TS無縫連接，有內(nèi)建的SDRAM控制器，支持pipeline方式和slow方式的外部存儲(chǔ)器訪問。TS包含14個(gè)專用DMA通道－4個(gè)外部DMA，8個(gè)Linkport DMA和2個(gè)AutoDMA。 |
[2003-7-24 11:23:21] |
[問：jia
yongli78] |
I am now do a project about singal check in train"s control systerm ,which kind dsp will be the first select? |
| [答：Ksri] |
In your application, it looks like cost is a critical item. Hence, you should choose the Blackfin processor. Blackfin has around 400 to 600 MHz that implies 800 to 1200 MMAcs. You can also interface Blackfin to a variety of external devices that would help you in this application ideally.
Please contact dsp.support@analog.com or your local china sales rep. for more information |
[2003-7-24 11:24:00] |
| [問：ken23] |
我知道AD的BLACKFIN有大量的有用的外設(shè)接口，例如USB接口，請(qǐng)問這款TS20X為什么沒有？ |
| [答：Phil] |
TigerSHARC is targeted at different applications than Blackfin. The peripheral set on TigerSHARC is therefore different. Future TigerSHARCs may offer more peripherals to fit into more and more applications in the future.
TigerSHARC peripherals are designed mainly for high speed data throughput at present. |
[2003-7-24 11:24:32] |
| [問：xuenet] |
What’s the functionality of SDA10 pin? |
| [答：Eric] |
This is a dedicated pin for SDRAM initialization, in normal time, it is Address 10 for SDRAM |
[2003-7-24 11:24:37] |
[問：
pensking] |
能否介紹一下開發(fā)板的情況？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
ADI has development boards called the EZ-kits for evaluation for all DSP processors. For TigerSHARC processor we have an EZ-kit that works with our emulators. The EZ-kit has 2 TigerSHARC processors, onboard codec, flash, 128 MByte SDRAM and 2 link ports.
Please visit www.analog.com/dsp/tools and select tigersharc for more information |
[2003-7-24 11:25:30] |
[問：
gadflyreal] |
tigersharc上的操作系統(tǒng)的價(jià)格是怎樣的？ |
| [答：Phil] |
Please contact the operating system vendors directly for pricing of their products as ADI does not offer these products directly. They are offered by our third party vendors.
ADI provides VDK for free with VisualDSP++. |
[2003-7-24 11:25:41] |
[問：zhang
zhenghong] |
ts101的datasheet中建議很多信號(hào)上拉或下拉，懸空行不行？ |
| [答：Eric] |
最好是按照DS處理不用的管腳，防止外部干擾導(dǎo)致輸入狀態(tài)的變化 |
[2003-7-24 11:25:48] |
| [問：ken23] |
TS20X有沒有建議的電源解決方案？ |
| [答：Phil] |
No. TS201 does not go into low power applications. |
[2003-7-24 11:26:11] |
| [問：xiaoli169] |
很抱歉問一下，我們公司想購買eMedia開發(fā)平臺(tái)，可是很長時(shí)間都沒有回應(yīng)（給你們服務(wù)部門打多電話），是不是購買貴公司的產(chǎn)品有門檻？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
For eMedia related information, please contact
Toll-free number: 800-810-1742
Toll-free fax: 800-810-1747
China.dsp@analog.com
and they will get back to you with relevant information |
[2003-7-24 11:26:18] |
| [問：fzz118] |
用于嵌入式系統(tǒng)中，TS和橋芯片的耦合度如何？耦合度最好的是那些橋芯片？謝謝 |
| [答：Eric] |
ADI的第三方Transtech公司可以提供Cluster Bus到PCI的總線橋 |
[2003-7-24 11:27:00] |
| [問：ken23] |
TS20X不適合便攜式設(shè)備，是不是就是說它的功耗很大？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
For portable devices the power consumption should be in lower milli watts. This will be much lower than the power dissipated by TS. TS consumes around 2.4 W of power.
For portable devices, we offer Blackfin processors with power as low as around 60 mw. This is suitable for portable applications |
[2003-7-24 11:27:51] |
| [問：x030724] |
TS101S的相關(guān)問題:1.復(fù)位的功能如何通過電平的高低變化實(shí)現(xiàn);2.核心供電電壓為1.25V,是否需要專門的,或者還只需電壓電流達(dá)到標(biāo)準(zhǔn)即可 |
| [答：Gerry] |
1.Data Sheet上有復(fù)位電平的時(shí)序，可以用EPLD實(shí)現(xiàn)。
2.核心供電電壓為1.2V,可以用不同的方法實(shí)現(xiàn)。 |
[2003-7-24 11:29:08] |
| [問：ken23] |
TS20X的功耗大概是多少？與TI C55系列相比如何？ |
| [答：Phil] |
TS201 power consumption is typically 2.5W core power.
The TigerSHARC data sheet has complete details on electrical and timing specifications and is available on our web site www.analog.com |
[2003-7-24 11:29:45] |
| [問：brent_dong] |
Any Special on Muti-media procession? |
| [答：Ksri] |
I presume your question is about multimedia applications. For such applications, ADI has Blackfin processors. Blackfin has video ALUs that could be used very efficiently for video processing. Blackfin also has IIS interfaces for some devices for audio applications. Hence, one can always use Blackifn for Multimedia applications and processing.
TigerSHARC on the other hand is used for multiprocessing. TigerSHARC also has 8-bit MACS for video applications. With 32-bit MACS you can use it for audio applications as well.
Please note that the DSPs are general purpose processors that enable you to program a wide range of applications |
[2003-7-24 11:30:49] |
[問：nev
erend] |
這個(gè)芯片如何應(yīng)用到無功補(bǔ)償方面? |
| [答：Phil] |
TigerSHARC can be applied to this application but this question is too vague to be answered in this forum. |
[2003-7-24 11:31:19] |
| [問：engineer] |
TS101S 300MHz的片子核心（1.2V）和IO（3.3V）采用哪種型號(hào)的電源模塊供電較好？是不是只要滿足電壓電流條件就可以了？還是用ADI公司專門的電源芯片較好？請(qǐng)推薦一下型號(hào)。 |
| [答：Eric] |
建議使用目前市場上現(xiàn)成的電源模塊，這樣性能有所保證。當(dāng)然如果使用自己設(shè)計(jì)的電源也可以，只要符合Datasheet要求的電壓，電流，紋波，響應(yīng)速度等等條件即可。具體型號(hào)可以參考相關(guān)電源模塊廠家的網(wǎng)站 |
[2003-7-24 11:31:45] |
[問：jin
songtang] |
Compare Tiger-SHARC with C67 of TI including performance, software supporting, affordablity please! |
| [答：Gerry] |
TigerSHARC是目前浮點(diǎn)運(yùn)算能力最高的DSP，提供3600 MFLOPs 的處理能力，是C67 的2.6倍。
TigerSHARC 提供相應(yīng)的庫函數(shù)，ADI的第三方也提供相應(yīng)的Software。 |
[2003-7-24 11:32:11] |
[問：kun
lunhuang] |
請(qǐng)問你們的blackfin ,在應(yīng)用于3G方面與TI的64xx相比有什么有點(diǎn)，有什么不足？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
A major advantage of Blackfin over c64x is
a) Power b) Price.
Blackfin consumes far less power than the TI part and is very very cheaper than the C64x.
The only disadvantage I see with Blackfin is in terms of the MIPS. TI C64x at 600 MHz offers 2400 MMACs while Blackfin at 600 MHz offers 1200 MMAcs. However in terms of price performance, Blackfin again wins over the TI C64x. |
[2003-7-24 11:32:13] |
| [問：zdj] |
提供RTOS支持嗎？請(qǐng)列舉。 |
| [答：Phil] |
RTOS such as OSE, WindRiver are supported as well as the VDK kernel provided by ADI free with VisualDSP++ |
[2003-7-24 11:32:13] |
[問：rib
bitweb] |
我用ti的5402作音頻信號(hào)處理，能否推薦一款adsp替代？有什么優(yōu)勢(shì)？ |
| [答：LiChuan] |
ADSP-BF531.
low cost, low power consumption, high processing ability(600MMACs), and video interface, audio codec interface(I2S). for detail you can contact with our support center 800-810-1742 |
[2003-7-24 11:32:24] |
[問：
defeng_y] |
指令周期是多少 |
| [答：Gerry] |
500MHz--2ns
請(qǐng)參考前面的回答。 |
[2003-7-24 11:32:53] |
[問：huang
xiaocheng] |
可以將多個(gè)TigerSHARC做成對(duì)稱多處理器結(jié)構(gòu)的服務(wù)器嗎? |
| [答：Steve] |
A TigerSHARC as a node in a multiprocessor system offers a balance between computational thruput and interprocessor communication bandwidth. This balance means that bottlenecks will not tend to reduce overall system performance. |
[2003-7-24 11:33:06] |
[問：zhang
zhenghong] |
能否提供flash燒寫的TS101的程序代碼。 |
| [答：Phil] |
Contact ADI Technical support to request one example of such a program which you can adapt for use with your own flash. Technical support email: dsp.support@analog.com |
[2003-7-24 11:33:50] |
[問：ly
721115] |
I/O帶寬最大能做到多少？ |
| [答：Gerry] |
一個(gè)TS201的I/O最大可以達(dá)到5GBytes/s |
[2003-7-24 11:34:08] |
[問：zhang
zhenghong] |
能不能推薦幾個(gè)TS101的電源芯片（1.2v輸出），最好體積小，輸出電流盡可能大。 |
| [答：Eric] |
請(qǐng)參考Ericsson，lucent，Avansys等電源廠家的網(wǎng)站，具體型號(hào)需要根據(jù)你的應(yīng)用而定，比如板上DSP的數(shù)量等要求 |
[2003-7-24 11:34:15] |
| [問：bjwwj] |
TS201、TS202、TS203與TS101指令兼容嗎？ |
| [答：Phil] |
All of the members of the TigerSHARC family are assembly code compatible. The TS20x contain some instructions which TS101 do not have. These processors are not object code compatible so you will have to reassemble/recompile your source. |
[2003-7-24 11:35:24] |
[問：ren
hongliang] |
TigerSHARC處理器主要應(yīng)用的范圍是什么，有哪些優(yōu)點(diǎn) |
| [答：Ksri] |
The target market for TigerSHARC is much wider. You can use it for 3G base stations, medical imaging, RADAR, SOnar applications. You can also use it for high performance audio, multimedia streaming and other applications that need multiprocessing |
[2003-7-24 11:35:56] |
[問：
engineer] |
ADSP-TS201 offer 24 Mbits on-chip memory-DRAM,not SRAM. So performance on it affect? |
| [答：Phil] |
In most applications, performance is not affected due to cache and prefetch mechanisms used with embedded DRAM. |
[2003-7-24 11:36:17] |
[問：simppy
0307] |
Can ADSP-TS101S directly interface with most of SDRAM without any FPGA or CPLD to control? |
| [答：Eric] |
yes, TS has a built-in SDRAM controller, there is no need to add logic devices |
[2003-7-24 11:36:59] |
| [問：ken23] |
請(qǐng)問這款TS20X是不是AD現(xiàn)有最高性能的DSP芯片？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
Yes. TS201 is the highest performance DSP in ADI family. TS201 is at 600 MHz with a communications Logic unit that greatly improves the performance of applications in CDMA base station turbo coding and viterbi applications processing. This also has around 24Mbit of onchip memory with 64-bit external memory interface to offer the maximum performance |
[2003-7-24 11:37:06] |
| [問：xuenet] |
I want to know whether the SDRAM Controller of TS101S could be used to interface with the DDR SDRAM? Thank you |
| [答：Ksri] |
No. DDR SDRAM offers data at double the data rate than the SDRAM controller can handle. Hence, it is just not possible |
[2003-7-24 11:37:56] |
[問：simppy
0307] |
When i want to use the IBIS model of TS101SAB2, I do not know what the description that impedance control set to 100%(11%or others) is |
| [答：Phil] |
0 through 7 in the IBIS filenames refer to impedance control of 0 through 7 (11% to 100%) of the TigerSHARC |
[2003-7-24 11:37:59] |
| [問：liusix] |
TigerSHARC 處理器于國內(nèi)同類型的處理器相比較，具有哪些方面的獨(dú)特優(yōu)勢(shì)？具體體現(xiàn)在那些指標(biāo)上？ |
| [答：Steve] |
The TigerSHARC excells at large signal processing tasks and supports scaleable multiprocessing, more processors can be easily be added to the system to increase performance. The TigerSHARC supports both 32-bit floating point data format and 16-bit fixed point formats. This allows a tradeoff of performance versus data precision.
A benchmark list is available at:
http://www.an, , alog.com/processors/processors/
tigersharc/benchmarks.html
Example code is available at:
http://www.analog.com/Analog_Root/sitePage/
mainSectionContent/0,2132,level4%253D%25252D1%
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25252D1,00.html |
[2003-7-24 11:38:10] |
| [問：sales] |
I always find this error in TIGERSHARC TS101, The VisualDSP provide this information:" Internal Error: Please notify product technical support". What caused this difficulty? |
| [答：Gerry] |
You can contact our technical support in
China.dsp@analog.com or dsptools.support@analog.com when you met this problem again. |
[2003-7-24 11:38:13] |
[問：zhang
zhenghong] |
能否提供TS101詳細(xì)的總線讀寫，linkports讀寫時(shí)序，dmar與總線讀寫信號(hào)的時(shí)序，DS中的不是很詳細(xì)。 |
| [答：Eric] |
請(qǐng)參考TS的hardware specification,里面有相信的說明。請(qǐng)到www.analog.com上下載 |
[2003-7-24 11:38:21] |
[問：zhang
zhenghong] |
ts101的總線能否不經(jīng)過隔離而直接連接到FPGA中。 |
| [答：Eric] |
可以 |
[2003-7-24 11:38:55] |
| [問：jiaxueqin] |
TigerSHARC可以支持浮點(diǎn)運(yùn)算嘛？ |
| [答：Gerry] |
是，可以支持IEEE標(biāo)準(zhǔn)的32位浮點(diǎn)運(yùn)算，也可以支持40位的擴(kuò)展精度浮點(diǎn)運(yùn)算。 |
[2003-7-24 11:39:25] |
| [問：ken23] |
請(qǐng)問TS20X系列的DMA方式具體與TI的C6000的EDMA有什么區(qū)別，謝謝！ |
| [答：Ksri] |
The basic job of a DMA be it on TS20x or TI DSP is the same - to transfer data from memory to another device without the core getting affected.
But the TS DMA implementation is very efficient. In the case of TS, when the DMA is happening, there will be no impact on the core, that is the core will not lose any performance. It has separate buses to transfer data from peripherals to memory.
On the ohter hand in TI DSP, when there is a DMA happening, there will be impact on the core to A certain extent that will definitely make the core idle in some cycles and hence the DMA will reduce the applications performance.
Hence, I would say that the DMA on TS is more efficient |
[2003-7-24 11:39:56] |
| [問：sales] |
I found the material about TS was not too many. Much less than SHARC. How to find further material? |
| [答：Phil] |
A great deal of resources such as manuals, code examples, application notes can be found on the ADI web site via http://www.analog.com/tigersharc
More application notes and code examples are being created every day so please check the web often. |
[2003-7-24 11:40:10] |
| [問：x030724] |
TS1011.讀寫控制信號(hào)，讀信號(hào)不分高低，那么地址線如何連,2.參考電壓，是否提供一個(gè)參考源即可,3.阻抗控制，是否有使能 |
| [答：Steve] |
The Read and Write signals are both active low.
See the ADSP-TS101 datasheet and Hardware Reference manual"s System Design Chapter for details on the impdance control and reference voltage. |
[2003-7-24 11:40:52] |
| [問：sales] |
In EE-176,I found the timing requirement RESET PIN.(Power-up reset: after power-up of the system, and strap options are stable, the RESET pin must beasserted (low) for a minimum of 2 ms followed by a de-asserted (high) pulse of a minimum of 50 SCLK cycles and a maximum of 100 SCLK cycles and asserted (low) for a minimum of 100 SCLK cycles.) I want to ask how to realize it. |
| [答：Ksri] |
You need a programmable logic to implement the timing you need. Hence the problem. You can realize using a programmable timer, but a PLD is the best option |
[2003-7-24 11:41:00] |
| [問：68395] |
When I can get the TS202? for production? |
| [答：Steve] |
The ADSP-TS202 will be released to production in summer 2004. |
[2003-7-24 11:41:28] |
| [問：jiancezhan] |
能否詳細(xì)介紹一下該器件的后續(xù)研發(fā)情況及市場預(yù)測。 |
| [答：Ksri] |
TigerSHARC is a new product and has a long road map. We started with 180Mhz a couple of years back and moved to 300 MHz last year and now 600 MHz.
In the future expect more TigerSHARC processors with more speed, better peripheral sets and more integration.
The market for TS is great and more applications find TS a suitable processor |
[2003-7-24 11:42:17] |
| [問：xuenet] |
Could you compare TS101 with TI"s TMS320C6416? |
| [答：Gerry] |
TS101 is 250MHz, TS201 is 500/600MHz. And provide twice 16MACs in one cycle compared with C6416.
TigerSHARC provide 3G communication instruction which support both chip rate processing and symbol rate processing, while C6416 only support symbol rate processing.
|
[2003-7-24 11:43:02] |
| [問：x030724] |
Tigersharc并行處理的情況,開發(fā)系統(tǒng)的價(jià)格 |
| [答：Phil] |
TigerSHARC supports multiprocessing gluelessly and a high degree of parallelism. Applications can be spread across multiple processors.
$1200 includes VisualDSP++, EZ-Kit, and HP PCI ICE. Contact your local sales representative for complete details. |
[2003-7-24 11:43:26] |
| [問：ken23] |
ADSP的接口速度確實(shí)要比TI的高很多，請(qǐng)問除了因?yàn)橹黝l更快的原因之外，AD還采取了什么樣的特殊設(shè)計(jì)實(shí)現(xiàn)了這一優(yōu)異性能？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
Yes. Our designs are customized to give high data rates and give higher performance.
We belive that todays applications need a very high data rates and hence we have designed our link ports to run at 125Mhz giving a total of 1G bytes throughput per second.
|
[2003-7-24 11:43:40] |
| [問：zqm-2000] |
ADMC401的開發(fā)軟件是VisualDSP 6.1版本嗎？這種軟件是免費(fèi)的嗎？ |
| [答：LiChuan] |
yes. and it is free. but you must use together with the EZKit. actually, it use the instruction of ADSP217x, so in the Visual DSP++, you can also simulate most of the program. also, we have now new product after ADMC401, it is ADSP-2199x, you can contact with our support center for more detail 800-810-1742 |
[2003-7-24 11:43:58] |
| [問：timorthy] |
是否可以申請(qǐng)樣片，如何申請(qǐng)？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
You can apply for samples of ADI DSPs by contacting your local ADI Sales and distributors - Chinatronic and / or GE-HK |
[2003-7-24 11:44:10] |
| [問：jiaxueqin] |
TigerSHARC更適用于控制還是計(jì)算？ |
| [答：Phil] |
TigerSHARC is very well suited to high performance multiprocessing applications with intense computational requirements.
Blackfin is better suited to control-type applications. |
[2003-7-24 11:44:24] |
| [問：asaa] |
TI的DSP產(chǎn)品中，有沒有與TigerSHARC處理器相類似的產(chǎn)品，可用于通用信號(hào)處理系統(tǒng)中？ |
| [答：Eric] |
對(duì)不起，請(qǐng)向TI咨詢類似問題。 |
[2003-7-24 11:44:44] |
| [問：wxk] |
提供數(shù)據(jù)處理子程序包？例如fft |
| [答：Gerry] |
對(duì)，提供。請(qǐng)聯(lián)系A(chǔ)DI技術(shù)支持。 |
[2003-7-24 11:44:56] |
| [問：ken23] |
TI提供所謂的RDTX實(shí)時(shí)調(diào)試系統(tǒng)，AD的有嗎？ |
| [答：Phil] |
The ADI HP PCI ICE will provide you with real-time debug functionality. |
[2003-7-24 11:45:27] |
| [問：sales] |
On ADSP-TS101S data sheet,Rev.A p.14,Tab.6,about the handing method of CPA and DPA signals,it said:'The CPA pin has an internal 500 ohm pull-up resistor,which is only enabled on the DSP with ID2-0=0. If ID0 is not used,terminate this pin as either epu or nc.if ID7-1 is not used, terminate this pin as epu'. I feel very confused when reading this explaination. Since 500 ohm pull-up will come into being when ID2-0=0,why shall we have to terminate this pin as epu or nc when ID=0 is not used as Tab.6 explained? I think it might be 'If ID0 is used,terminate this pin as epu or nc' ,is it right? Then I found EE-176,p8,table on how to handing CPA & DPA, it said, PU for ID7-1,Pu or NC for ID0, which is not accord with data sheet Rev.A |
| [答：Phil] |
Every system must include a TigerSHARC with ID set to zero (0). |
[2003-7-24 11:46:04] |
| [問：qin] |
如何識(shí)別定點(diǎn)和浮點(diǎn)運(yùn)算,在指令上有何區(qū)別? |
| [答：Ksri] |
The TS supports fixed and floating point operations. It is very simple. If you use a register in the instruction as R0 it is fixed point operation. If you prefix the instructions with an "f" it becoems floating point.
No mode swithces. It is all part of the instructions. |
[2003-7-24 11:46:19] |
| [問：jiaxueqin] |
匯編指令的詳細(xì)資料怎么獲得？ |
| [答：LiChuan] |
contact our support center 800-810-1742 |
[2003-7-24 11:46:25] |
| [問：ly721115] |
每瓦最高性能和每平方英寸電路板最高性能的含義是什么？ |
| [答：Steve] |
Given the system"s power budget performance per Watt will define the total multiprocessor system performance. Given a system"s area limits performance per PCB inch^2 defines the maximum performance. |
[2003-7-24 11:46:41] |
| [問：zdj] |
在國內(nèi)，目前有哪些技術(shù)支持措施？ |
| [答：Tonny] |
Please contact ADI DSP Support Center
800-810-1742
china.dsp@analog.com |
[2003-7-24 11:46:45] |
| [問：zdj] |
采購?fù)緩饺绾危?nbsp; |
| [答：Ksri] |
I presume you are asking about how to order for samples. If you need to order for samples, you can contact the local ADI or distributors. |
[2003-7-24 11:46:50] |
| [問：mintea] |
2181可以作MP3？ |
| [答：LiChuan] |
of course!
both encoder and decoder!
|
[2003-7-24 11:46:59] |
| [問：sales] |
請(qǐng)問哪里可以找到一些成功的 TigerSHARC C源程序，和相應(yīng)的ldf文檔 |
| [答：Ksri] |
Please visit the ADI website at
http://www.analog.com/Analog_Root/sitePage/
mainSectionResource/0,2131,level4%253D%25252D1%
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Application Notes List
to get our application notes. |
[2003-7-24 11:47:35] |
[問：zhang
zhenghong] |
在哪能得到有關(guān)多片TS101總線互聯(lián)（緊耦合）的應(yīng)用實(shí)例，是ADI的第三方嗎，若是請(qǐng)?zhí)峁┧麄兊穆?lián)系方式。 |
| [答：Eric] |
ADI的EZkit板提供2片DSP的總線互連的設(shè)計(jì)參考，如果你們的應(yīng)用需要更多的DSP互連，可以向我們的第三方咨詢，聯(lián)系方式請(qǐng)參考我們的網(wǎng)站www.analog.com |
[2003-7-24 11:47:43] |
| [問：scienceMode] |
TigerSHARC的開發(fā)技術(shù)培訓(xùn)是否由貴公司承擔(dān)？ |
| [答：LiChuan] |
we will organize the training, and we will hold the training in the training center that we established together with the universities around all China!
|
[2003-7-24 11:48:29] |
| [問：defeng_y] |
ad694的基準(zhǔn)電壓腳是輸入還是輸出 |
| [答：Tonny] |
For your question, please contact ADI China Support Center ASC team
800-810-1742
china.support@analog.com |
[2003-7-24 11:48:29] |
| [問：engineer] |
TS101S要求上電時(shí)核心（1.2V）比IO（3.3V）先上電，這個(gè)時(shí)序是如何控制實(shí)現(xiàn)的？有沒有專門實(shí)現(xiàn)此功能的電源模塊？ |
| [答：Steve] |
ADP3170 power regulator is recommended for ADSP-TS101 designs. Refer to the schematics in the ADSP-TS101 EZ-Kit user"s manuals for an example of power sequencing. |
[2003-7-24 11:48:37] |
| [問：ribbitweb] |
I"m a TI dsp user,how can i become a Adsp user?
|
| [答：Ksri] |
We are glad that you would want to consider ADI DSP.
All you need to do is get an EZ-kit, VSDSP tools and start developing the application. For support use dsp.support@analog.com.
If you can share your application to us, we can help you suggest a good DSP for your appliciation |
[2003-7-24 11:48:50] |
| [問：ribbitweb] |
有沒有跳擴(kuò)頻通信方面的應(yīng)用，比如調(diào)制解調(diào)、數(shù)字鎖相環(huán)等？是否需要多處理器結(jié)構(gòu)？ |
| [答：Eric] |
可以支持，是否需要多處理器結(jié)果要視處理量而定。 |
[2003-7-24 11:48:51] |
| [問：songshijie] |
能否告知TigerSHARC處理器的流程框圖和設(shè)計(jì)指南？？ |
| [答：Phil] |
Detailed information can be found in the TigerSHARC Programming Reference as well as various application notes such as EE-179 for design guidelines. All of this documentation is available on the ADI web site www.analog.com |
[2003-7-24 11:48:57] |
| [問：jiaxueqin] |
現(xiàn)在TI的dsp已經(jīng)為大家所熟知，因?yàn)門I在中國許多大學(xué)都推廣他們的產(chǎn)品，不知道貴公司會(huì)不會(huì)有推廣的活動(dòng)？ |
| [答：LiChuan] |
we have promoted already, and we will go on.
we have establish many join lab and training centers in the university of China |
[2003-7-24 11:49:45] |
| [問：alphashao] |
請(qǐng)問TIGERSHARK在圖象識(shí)別方面，比如車牌識(shí)別，請(qǐng)問一般需要幾個(gè)芯片？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
It all depends on what resolution and what exactly you want to do with the application. Unfortunatley, we dont have any benchmark to do it. But my guess is that one TS should be able to do this application because it is a simple imaging application.
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[2003-7-24 11:50:03] |
| [問：allheart] |
請(qǐng)先談?wù)劕F(xiàn)行處理器的品種與分類。 |
| [答：Gerry] |
嵌入式處理器可以分為DSP和MCU兩大類。傳統(tǒng)上MCU主要側(cè)重于控制，DSP主要側(cè)重于數(shù)字信號(hào)處理。目前，兩個(gè)方面有互相影響和融合的趨勢(shì)。 |
[2003-7-24 11:50:19] |
| [問：zdj] |
請(qǐng)問，目前能支持此類多處理器系統(tǒng)的RTOS有哪些？ |
| [答：Phil] |
OSE and WindRiver RTOS are supported. ADI also provides VDK kernel free with VisualDSP++. |
[2003-7-24 11:50:23] |
| [問：ken23] |
TI公司提供了ftp.ti.com這樣的FTP站點(diǎn)供使用者下載資料，同時(shí)民間的類似站點(diǎn)也很多，請(qǐng)問ADSP有沒有類似的提供大量資料與例程的FTP站點(diǎn)，方便用戶的開發(fā)工作？ |
| [答：Tonny] |
We have ftp.analog.com also for download. Please contact ADI China Support Center for more material.
800-810-1742
china.dsp@analog.com |
[2003-7-24 11:52:07] |
| [問：szg_szg] |
TigerSHARC 處理器有成本優(yōu)勢(shì)么？謝謝！ |
| [答：Ksri] |
Yes ofcourse.
You can consider TS203 that is availble for just USD34.95. For this price you get 500 MHz, 4Mbit RAM onchip. This gives you a performance of around 1000 32-bit MMACs or 4000 16-bit MMACs or even 1000 floating point MMACs.
Hence, you can see that TigerSHARC has a tremendous price performance advantage.
For multichannel applications, this is still excellent because the cost per channel will come down. |
[2003-7-24 11:52:52] |
| [問：engineer] |
TigerSharc have very high-performance signal processing ability in base stations. Is there any other application can TS used? |
| [答：Steve] |
See slide 32 in the presentation. The TigerSHARC family excells at high performance "large" signal processing tasks and require scaleable performance and 16-bit fixed point to 32-bit floating point data formats. The TigerSHARC family is sucessfull at:
Medical Imaging
- Ultrasound
- CT Scanners
- MRI
Aerospace
- Radar
- Communications
Industrial
- imaging and control
Instrumentation
- test and measurement
Prosumer Audio
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[2003-7-24 11:53:30] |
[問：zhang
zhenghong] |
板間TS101 linkport互聯(lián)時(shí)用不用接匹配電阻，用不用上拉。 |
| [答：Eric] |
不用，但是在輸入端懸空時(shí)要保證狀態(tài)的穩(wěn)定 |
[2003-7-24 11:53:46] |
| [問：songshijie] |
TigerSHARC處理器與傳統(tǒng)DSP的優(yōu)缺點(diǎn)
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| [答：Ksri] |
TigerSHARC processor is a DSP. A traditional DSP has MACs, TS has MAC. Tradition DSP has Circular buffer, TS has Circular buffer. Traditional DSP has bit reverse, TS has bit reverse. Traditional DSP has hardware loops, TigerSHARC also has hardware loops. Traditional DSP has parallel loads and store, TS has the same.
TigerSHARC on the other hand also has SIMD mode and is a super scalar architecture where there is a lot of scope for parallelism. |
[2003-7-24 11:54:35] |
| [問：peng-kai] |
請(qǐng)問：我們?nèi)绻x用了該設(shè)計(jì)方案，AD公司的技術(shù)支持能夠提供哪些支持與服務(wù)，在我們開發(fā)過程中，是否能實(shí)時(shí)提供服務(wù)，謝謝！ |
| [答：Tonny] |
ADI China DSP Support Team will provide email and telephone support for our customer. That"s real time support, of course. Please contact
800-810-1742
china.dsp@analog.com |
[2003-7-24 11:54:49] |
| [問：engineer] |
I found that TS203 processor’s external port can’t support 64-bit operation,only can is configured for 32-bit operation.. Why reduce the width of external port? |
| [答：Steve] |
The ADSP-TS203 has a reduced memory and peripheral support because it is a low cost device. |
[2003-7-24 11:54:57] |
| [問：neverend] |
這個(gè)芯片如何應(yīng)用到無功補(bǔ)償方面? |
| [答：LiChuan] |
for the power factor correction, you should use our ADSP-2199x which has PWM generation block and on Chip ADC.
if you still want to use this chip, you need run the algorithm on this DSP and use external components for ADC and PWM.
for detail you can call our support center 800-810-1752 |
[2003-7-24 11:57:19] |
| [問：ken23] |
TI公司每年都有針對(duì)于大學(xué)生的TI設(shè)計(jì)大賽，請(qǐng)問ADSP有沒有類似的大賽？ |
| [答：Ksri] |
Yes. ADI has a forum on SHARC processors in Boston every year. Please check our website regularly for more information. |
[2003-7-24 11:57:24] |
| [問：sales] |
我的電路板上有一個(gè)周期性的輸入信號(hào)，是外板一上電就傳給我的，通過PLD的處理作為TIGERSHARC（TS101）DSP外部中斷IRQ0輸入。可是一上電，DSP就開始緩慢升溫到不正常的高溫狀態(tài)�；蛘咭贿\(yùn)行包含IRQ0中斷響應(yīng)程序立即升溫到非正常狀態(tài)并且不響應(yīng)中斷。當(dāng)我不接這個(gè)信號(hào)時(shí)（僅僅翹起輸入驅(qū)動(dòng)芯片管腳），工作正常。所以我懷疑在DSP復(fù)位狀態(tài)中就將該信號(hào)處理后輸入DSP引起故障，故用DSP的FLAG信號(hào)作為對(duì)該信號(hào)的控制信號(hào)，結(jié)合DSP的復(fù)位信號(hào)，使得該信號(hào)產(chǎn)生的中斷在DSP復(fù)位完成后，必須由DSP控制才可進(jìn)入。經(jīng)示波器觀察確實(shí)實(shí)現(xiàn)。芯片不熱了，但中斷依然不響應(yīng)。（程序經(jīng)測試是正確的）而且如果在帶電狀態(tài)退出VISUALDSP++的EMULATOR狀態(tài)，（即關(guān)閉VISUALDSP++）芯片開始運(yùn)行儲(chǔ)留在其內(nèi)部的包含IRQ0中斷響應(yīng)的程序，芯片立即升溫。但運(yùn)行不涉及中斷IRQ0的程序，芯片狀態(tài)仍然挺好。對(duì)于該輸入信號(hào)的控制，我覺得已經(jīng)不會(huì)再對(duì)DSP復(fù)位有什么影響了吧？為什么會(huì)有以上的現(xiàn)象呢？（中斷響應(yīng)程序及其短小，僅僅對(duì)某一FLAG的TOGGLE）。 |
| [答：Eric] |
對(duì)不起，這個(gè)問題在短時(shí)間內(nèi)難以依據(jù)你描述的現(xiàn)象定位，能否在會(huì)后聯(lián)系我們的技術(shù)支持？ |
[2003-7-24 11:58:22] |
| [問：simppy0307] |
Now,I"am developing a system based CPCI and use four TS101s.I expand the four linkports(one for each ts101),but i can"t find a suitable interface (13 pins and for high speed transportation) |
| [答：Steve] |
Further research needs to be done to find a high speed low profile connector and cable to fit the CPCI for factor. We do not have a specific recommendation. |
[2003-7-24 11:58:37] |
| [問：blackffan] |
TigerSHARC 是否提供免費(fèi)樣片？ |
| [答：Steve] |
Contact you local sales office for sample infomation. |
[2003-7-24 11:59:15] |
| [問：李 江] |
i am new comer for DSP application,can u tell me the price of development tools ,eg
EZ-KIT,vsdsp |
| [答：Tonny] |
Now we provide one set of Tools with $1200, including VDSP, EZ-ICE and EZ-KIT
For detail, please contact ADI China DSP Support Center
800-810-1742
china.dsp@analog.com |
[2003-7-24 12:03:13] |
| [問：peng-kai] |
請(qǐng)問：我們?nèi)绻x用了該設(shè)計(jì)方案，AD公司的技術(shù)支持能夠提供哪些支持與服務(wù)，在我們開發(fā)過程中，是否能實(shí)時(shí)提供服務(wù)，謝謝！ |
| [答：LiChuan] |
we can try our best to support you, we have support center in China and free toll call is 800-810-1742 and mail is china.dsp@analog.com |
[2003-7-24 12:04:00] |
| [問：68395] |
用ad6634與TS101可以直接用LINK口對(duì)接。當(dāng)DSP改為TS201后，如何與AD6634的LINK口對(duì)接呢？ |
| [答：Phil] |
The AD6634 is compatible with the TS101 link ports but is not compatible with the TS20x link ports. The TS20x link ports changed substantially to support higher throughput.
Please check back with us later for new product announcements. |
[2003-7-24 12:05:08] |
